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Maybe I am wrong..Today my wife and I took a little trip. We decided to go to the Casino Near Green Bay, Wi. for lunch and some fun. The day was very nice and we had a nice lunch and lost our play money.
We were on our way home and were following a hay truck which was moving slow and everyone was passing him. A pickup in front of me and myself started around the truck. This is open country roads, 2 lane, and fairly well traveled. We both had plenty of room and so started around him. No yellow lines in either lane. not a no passing lane.
Just as I was pulling back into my lane behind the Dakota in front of me, not following too close, On a side road to my left was a police car getting ready to pull out, I was watching him just to make sure we were back in line before he pulled out. We were in our lane before he started to pull out, but he immediately pulled over to the gravel on his side like we were going to hit him and as soon as the hay truck passed him, he did a donut and turned on the siren and red lights.
Well I kept going just to see who he was after, the hay truck, me or the Dakota in front of me. It was me he wanted, so I pulled over as soon as I could safetly. He pulled up behind and so while he was doing whatever they do before getting out, I got my liscense out and had it ready.. He approached my vehicle and asked if I knew why he had stopped me.. I said, not really, I may have been over the speed limit when passing the hay truck. He said no, but for passing in an intersection. I said to him that there was no yellow no passing line and I was back in my lane before the intersection. No hostility or shouting, I am a pretty easy going guy.
I honestly thought I would get a warning . He came back with a court date and a $195 fine. When he told me what it was, I said, you have to be kidding, not in a fit of rage, just like what? you have to be kidding. He immediately told me to shut up and put my hands on the steering wheel. I said, can't we talk, and he said one more word and you will be arrested and taken to jail. As he said this, he was backing down the side of the car and his hand went to his side.
I was dumbfounded. My hands were in plain site on the top of the steering wheel. My wife was scared to death. She had ahold of my arm and was shaking. I can't describe how we felt at that moment, it was horrible. He then asked if I understood. I just looked at him and nodded my head, I didn't know what to do. Believe me, I was not hostile or antaganistic in any way. My wife said after we drove away, she was afraid he was going to shoot me, I don't know, but something was not right here. I do think this young cop had a problem and I was the fix.
I am not sure what I will do now, but I think it might require an attorney. I have had one speeding ticket in my 40 years of driving. If he had said you were speeding I would have taken it like a man, But.....so what do you think? I am still befuddled by his actions.... JohnJ
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First, thanks for all the input.. I had decided not to do anything and just pay the fine because I thought it would be paid in the area where I got the ticket, Onieda Nation, and I didn't want to deal with them. My wife told me it would be in a different town, Appleton. I decided to photocopy and mail in a not guilty, and then they will set up a court date. Last night I basically copied and sent the letter I posted here along with my wifes written take on what happened to the Chief of police, Asst. chief of police ,and Lieutenent of the police dept where the officer came from. As of now, I have not got a response nor do I expect one. I will take a copy of the mail to the judge at my hearing. I also looked into Wi. road laws and found the ticket would be valid inside city limits, not outside town unless clearly marked. I also found where if the officer had pulled out into traffic with vehicles coming from either direction, regular right lane toward him, or car passing another car in his lane as I was, toward him, he would be at fault, not to mention possibly hurt or killed. I went back and took pics of the intersection and absolutly no kind of no passing zone, only Hy. sign of road. Just a half mile closer to town was another intersection, and it was marked clearly with a no passing sign and double yellow painted lines on road and a hy sign. I totally think this is a wrongful ticket and hope to beat it. The real bother is from the officer and the way he acted and treated us, this I would like to see stopped before he meets up with a hothead who won't just shut up to get away from him , but who really confronts him and gets really hurt by this rogue... thanks again for all the input, it helped greatly to quell my fear and anger ...JohnJ
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I have never had a problem with a cop in my life, My Brother in Law is NOW a Deputy , Another brother in law was a constable for many years, a brother was in security for years. I at one time thought I would like to do this work, but decided I didn't have the balls for it.... I do not think all cops are bad, on the contrary, Most of them I know have been just regular guys, The Sheriff lived across the road from me and we got along fine. I flew with another at our flying field in town.. Most are upright guys. Something was definately wrong with the one I met up with. would I call him if my lights were flickering as I came home, dang straight, He would probably do a great job, if he had the attitude he had with me against real criminals, When you enter a house that has been broken into, with the person or persons still inside, it requires a different attitude than pulling an average guy over for a traffic violation, This is what makes a good cop, adapting to the situation, it may be what he needs to do. He might be one of the reasons Green Bay is one of the 10 lowest crime areas in the U.S.A... But...he had a problem of some kind that day, and he was wrong to treat us the way he did.
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Brokenarrow... Heck no, we are just stating experiences , good or bad. Some funny, I was coming up hy 57 in Illinois, a cop was in front of me doing about 5 mph less than speed limit, I followed him for about a half mile, others were passing him, I was not. He turned on the lights and turned over his shoulder and motioned for me to pull over,, I did and he got out and walked back to me.. He said, what is the matter? you afraid to pass a cop? You afraid I will give you a ticket just for passing me? Other people were passing me, I didn't stop them.. So why didn't you pass me.. I said, my turnoff was just ahead and I figured I would just follow till I got there.. He said Good day , turned around , got into the car and we both turned off at the next off ramp..JohnJ
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You are the type of cop I could appreciate..Just doing your job and apparently doing it well where it was really needed....
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